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"Evil" Music, Part II

Continuing yesterday’s post about ‘evil music’, which is more or less an introduction to this one:

This month’s Ensign has an article by Dennis J. Nordfelt about keeping kids out of gangs. Not a bad article, but I have one major complaint. The article lists “warning signs” that your kid might be getting involved with a gang, one of which is:

An interest in gangster rap or heavy metal music

Well, now…talk about hitting one of The Baron’s pet peeves on the nose. Listening to heavy metal is a ‘warning sign’ that your kid is involved in a gang? That’s like saying ‘playing video games’ is a "warning sign” that your kid is close to taking a gun to school and shooting his classmates.

First of all, heavy metal is a distinct subgenre of rock with its primary characteristics being double-bass drumming, use of the ‘riffing’ style of guitar playing (versus the ‘power chord’ style in other rock genres) and some distinct vocal and lyrical differences (which I won’t get into now…I’m trying to be as untechnical as I can). Yet, 'heavy metal' itself is a broad characterization for a number of subgenres that are also distinct in music style. There’s power metal, thrash metal, speed metal, gothic metal, death metal, and modern-day progressive rock (which is very metal-influenced). Believe me, no matter how little experience you have with the metal genre, you’d be able to tell the difference between a power metal and a death metal band if you heard the two.

The point is: you can’t make generalizations about an entire genre of music such as ‘heavy metal’ any more than you can about ‘country’ or ‘new age’ because it’s too wide-ranging—especially generalizations involving something as serious as “warning signs of criminal behavior”.

Brother Nordfelt deserves credit for specifing “gangster rap” instead of just “rap”. Rap (or hip-hop) is also a distinct genre of music which emphasizes the natural rhythm of the voice instead of a specific melody—with lyrics that are chanted instead of sung. “Gangster” rap on the other hand, is less of a musical subgenre of rap than an attitude subgenre. Violent imagery, vulgar and obscene language, gratuitous sexual dialogue, and, yes, participation in gang-related activity are all characteristic of ‘gangster’ style rapping—even though from a strictly musical standpoint there’s no difference between it and other forms of rap. Brother Nordfelt is culturally literate enough to know that ‘rap’—the music form—isn’t always bad, and thus qualified it with a term which essentially specifies ‘rap that advocates sinful behavior’.

My point is, he should have done the same with “heavy metal”.

Some heavy metal is satanic, just as some of it is vulgar and sometimes violent. Yet, as with any musical genre, you can’t make generalizations for everyone based on a few examples—there’s no such thing as a satanic (or even vulgar) power metal band, for example. The satanic bands (which aren’t as numerous as people think…) are usually classified in their own category—“black metal”. Similarly, the Christian heavy metal bands (yes, there is such a thing…) are called “white metal”, yet listening to a Christian heavy metal band is apparently still a warning sign for criminal and immoral behavior.

I don’t expect Brother Nordfelt to have known the difference between ‘black metal’ and ‘power metal’ or Nightwish-style ‘symphonic opera metal’—but that’s the problem: he’s passing judgment on something he knows nothing about. Unlike rap, heavy metal is a true ‘underground’ style of music. Major labels don’t release it. US media outlets don’t cover it. MTV and radio stations don’t play it. I don’t think Brother Nordfelt or any average Utah Mormon can name five true heavy metal bands of any genre. (So-called ‘nu-metal’ bands like Slipknot, Korn, and Linkin Park don’t count…) Heavy metal for the most part resides outside of public view…which, in fact, leads directly to my next point:

Brother Nordfelt’s thesis has a more fundamental flaw: heavy metal of any type—whether it conforms to Church standards or not—has no direct relationship to gang behavior. Unlike rap, you can’t name any members of heavy metal bands who have direct ties to gangs, you don’t hear reports in the news about fans of one band having violent clashes with fans of another, and you can’t find any heavy metal lyrics that advocate gang-related behavior. One of the predominant themes of heavy metal lyrics is, in fact, social isolationism: and as a result, heavy metal fans tend to be socially isolated themselves. (In other words, they tend to keep to themselves, not form gangs and wreck mayhem on their communities) When you see gang members on the news, do they look like they’re trying en masse to conform to heavy metal band stereotypes as an ‘image’ (long hair, black T-shirts, playing the guitar)...or rap stereotypes?

Heavy metal has been intertwined with criminal behavior before (even recently, as in Italy, where last month two members of a satanic heavy metal band were ritually murdered by the other two members), but that would be more accurately classified as ‘cult’ behavior, not ‘gang’ behavior. (The distinction between a ‘cult’ and a ‘gang’ is a discussion for another day, but the main difference is cults are small, socially isolated groups, unlike gangs which are generally much larger) I don’t believe there is a significant link between any form of heavy metal and gang behavior, and I would suggest if Brother Nordfelt or anyone else wants to persist with this notion. then they’ll need to provide some direct evidence.

Tomorrow: What the ‘real’ problem is…

June 30, 2004 in Religion | Permalink

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Great post. It's fun to see a bloggernacker who knows so much about differenet forms of heavy metal.

"Gangster rap" probably should be written "gangsta rap." That exta "r" sound just doesn't get out on the street where the rap music is coming from. Then again, the editors of the Ensign aren't going to allow a slang word like "gangsta" to get past them. :)

Posted by: danithew | Jun 30, 2004 1:54:43 PM

Good point on 'gangsta'...

I'm a 16 year 'veteran' of the heavy metal scene, despite being a clarinet and saxophone player in real life, and despite the latent prejudices of Church members towards heavy metal and the people who listen to it (which I will be addressing in Part 3...)

I'd be willing to bet I have more knowledge of the metal genre than any other active Church member in the entire country (which isn't, in fact, saying much...)

Posted by: The Baron | Jun 30, 2004 2:17:12 PM

Fun! So I think this calls for a list of favorite bands/artists...

The closest I've gotten to enjoying heavy metal has been Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin and some Metallica songs. I sort of look at Metallica as the Edgar Allan Poe's of music...

I'll be interested to see installment 3.

Posted by: danithew | Jun 30, 2004 2:30:57 PM

Nice review, Baron. Yes, the Ensign really needs to get up to speed on heavy metal. Maybe hire a new music columnist or something. They need to know that drugs are _not_ a prerequisite for feeling "the spirit" of the music. Pizza works. Volume helps too. Rock on.

Posted by: Dave | Jul 1, 2004 12:25:57 AM

Dave,

I like your suggestion, though for some reason in my mind it conjured up the image of inviting the MC5 to "Music And the Spoken Word" on a suddenly not-so-quiet Sunday morning. :)

Kick out the Jams, Mormon Tabernackers!

Posted by: danithew | Jul 1, 2004 8:09:36 AM

Baron,

There are quite a few active LDS members in my single ward that are partial to heavy metal. We lean more toward the progressive (Rush, etc) but you're not alone!

In a related thought, just this morning I listened to a talk given by Jack Christiansen on the 'evils of music'. He had some good points but he still fell subject to the overgeneralizations of most LDS. Among the most intriguing points was his contention that AC/DC, and particularly the song 'Hell's Bells', is overtly satanic. Good talk. Worth a listen.

Posted by: emsko | Jul 1, 2004 7:59:39 PM

I just tried to view the lyrics on Hells Bells and besides the fact that they do appear to be overtly satanic or at least very, very sinister I learned that one should NEVER NEVER NEVER attempt to view things at LYRICSDOMAIN.COM.

This website basically attempted to take over my work computer and hijacked my internet explorer browser. It's taken quite a bit of time with computer support to get it taken care of. I'm just glad that I didn't get in any trouble. Apparently they've seen this kind of thing before.

Posted by: danithew | Jul 2, 2004 9:57:11 AM

Dude, I'm completely behind any blanket condemnation of country music.

Posted by: Nathan | Jul 2, 2004 2:21:14 PM

'Sup, Nathan. :)

I had to grin when I read what you wrote. I used to regularly refer to country music as "an oxymoron." I'm still sort of battling long-held hatred of the country twang.

However, there are so many musicians/bands I unabashedly love that discreetly or blatantly demonstrate their appreciation for country music: the Eagles, Jackson Browne, Dire Straits (Mark Knopfler), Ray Charles, etc. and etc. -- as a result it becomes harder and harder for me to maintain that total anti-country-music stance. Country music represents just one more facet of what America has contributed to popular music. So I think true music fans have to give country music its props.

One of the songs my wife and I love most is "Grow Old With Me" by John Lennon. Mary Chapin Carpenter, who's work is normally associated with country music, does a gorgeous cover of this rock'n'roll song. I highly suggest to anyone that they listen to this song.

Also, Jack White (of the White Stripes), who is providing some of the freshest and roughest guitar jams I've heard in a long time, recently produced and played on an album for Loretta Lynn -- a renowned country singer and artist. I heard one song off of this album (haven't gotten my mitts on it yet) and thought it was pretty good stuff. When someone like Jack White shows that much appreciation and respect for a country artist, that makes me feel that I need to re-think my previous stance on the matter. Obviously I still have a lot to learn.

Posted by: danithew | Jul 3, 2004 8:55:34 AM

"We lean more toward the progressive (Rush, etc)..."

Rush? Heavy metal? Are you serious? Granted I haven't listened to them in about 12 years, but back in the late eighties and early nineties, they were a far cry from any heavy metal bands I listened to. Then again, a lot of Canadian bands often get pigeonholed into some genre because no one knows where their distinct sounds places them.

Posted by: Kim Siever | Jul 4, 2004 10:02:36 PM

Yeah, I listen to Rush (mostly the '80-'85 period), but they're not heavy metal. Progressive rock didn't become intertwined with heavy metal until 1992 when Dream Theater hit the scene (although 80's Queensryche and Fates Warning had some metal influences...)

Posted by: The Baron | Jul 5, 2004 3:09:05 PM

It's not just metal, there's a general ignorance of music among leadership sometimes.

A while back, our Bishop went off on a ten-minute rant about how country music makes everyone who listens to it go drink beer and then commit adultery.

I suspect that some of these views may be partially colored by experiences with members' problems. "Brother X went and left his wife! Terrible! Hmm, I wonder if he was listening to any music?" It's a lot easier than looking for real problems.

Posted by: Kaimi | Jul 6, 2004 12:17:28 PM

Any conversation about music and morality is greatly enhanced by reference to Elder Gene Cook's startling (and sometimes hilarious) talk in which he recounts his long, in depth conversation with the one and only Mick Jagger about rock 'n' roll. This story is one of the ur texts of my life. Enjoy:

http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/arts/cook_jagger.htm

Posted by: Greg | Jul 7, 2004 11:16:28 AM

My comment is on Rap influences. I do think that rap affects how criminals think, i mean why wouldnt it? Its talking bout all this killing and raping... u can just put an image in your head...come on now

Posted by: slim | Feb 9, 2005 11:38:34 AM

Even though this thread appears dead, I'd just like to point out that "even though from a strictly musical standpoint there’s no difference between it [gangsta rap] and other forms of rap" isn't entirely true. At least initially, the term "gangsta rap" referred to the "G-funk" style of NWA/Dre/Snoop and other (mostly) west coast rappers. It is differentiated from other rap by the style of the beats--compare the late 80/early 90 prevalence of the 808 beat.

(I think I'm right about this, but I am open to being proven wrong.)

Also: The effect of country music on suicide.

Posted by: Pris | Feb 15, 2005 1:27:08 PM

Metal and gangsta don't mix sorry.

Adam

www.exmormans.org

Posted by: Adam Hamer | Nov 21, 2005 7:44:03 PM

Brother Nordfelt's comments suprise me because it's the first time in at least 10 years I've read any condemnation of Metal music from any church source. Back in Metal's (last) heyday in the late-80's/early-90's, it was pretty common for church leaders and others to condemn it from the pulpit. But since Heavy Metal fell from pop culture relevance, I figured it had joined Jazz, Rockabilly, and other formerly "dangerous" types of music that were no longer a problem. Guess I need to put my Slayer collection back in the closet for another 10 years or so ;).

BTW, the comment about condemning country was funny. Honest to goodness, I heard someone in church condemn classical music once. He went on a tirade about Wagner being an anti-semite, Tchaikovsky being a homosexual, and Mozart being just plain weird. I guess you can find fault with just about any type of music out there, except LDS artists like the Osmonds, Jericho Road, Janice Kapp Perry, and Ryan Shupe. Of course, you can make the contention that they're lame, but isn't that the first sign of apostacy?

Posted by: Steve Park | Mar 20, 2006 8:32:24 AM

The crazy white kids that shoot up their suburban schools listen to "heavy metal"

Posted by: Truth | Jan 6, 2008 10:54:08 PM

And the crazy minority kids that shoot each other up daily listen to gangster rap! And by the way if you do the research you'll find that killings in schools by those "crazy white kids" vs. gang violence has no comparison. The death toll is about 10,000 to 1.

Posted by: Justin | Mar 6, 2008 7:21:54 PM

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