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October 2004 General Conference Thoughts: Day Two

A few parting thoughts from both days of LDS General Conference

1. Kudos to whomever had the idea of bringing in the primary choir...

2. Elder Bednar mentioned casually in his talk that he only received his calling last Friday afternoon--less than a day before he was sustained, and less than two days before he was supposed to speak. This isn't a new thing, as most of the current apostles have mentioned being called only a day or two before General Conference also. One assumes part of the reason is to guard against any 'leaks' beforehand, and another might be giving the Church president the maximum amount of time to pray and ponder about the issue before making a decision.
Suppose, however, next time the new elder(s) were called in several months in advance, accepted the calling, and then the Church made an official announcement ahead of time, with the actual sustaining happening at the next General Conference as usual. That would give the general membership a chance to learn more about the new apostles before being asked to sustain them in conference. (Pres. Hinckley remarked, in fact, on Saturday that none of us knew who these guys were...) You know, of course, whatever names Pres. Hinckley read were going to be sustained unanimously anyway (it would take someone really controversial to break the unanimous sustaining vote thing...) but I wonder if announcing the names ahead of time would give the public a little more time to get to know them, to know whom we were sustaining instead of just being a name announced from the pulpit. Then again, this might also lead to public criticism of the selection given too much lead time, with people here and there clamoring that the Church should have chosen Elder X instead and encouraging Pres. Hinckley to 'change his mind' before conference time. Plus, since becoming an apostle creates quite a lifestyle change, it's probably better to wait until the last minute for the sake of the new apostle and his family, since before the sustaining and the calling becoming 'official' there wouldn't be much he could do as an apostle anyway...

3. Given the short preparation time, you can understand how Elders Uchtdorf and Bednar ended up just sharing their testimonies essentially, without having a full prepared talk on a specific topic. Of course, the basic purpose of an apostle is to 'testify of Christ', anyway--which is exactly what they ended up doing.

4. Elder Ballard's talk from Saturday discussed a few things about 'testimony meeting etiquette'. While this talk has elicited some criticism in the blogosphere for seemingly making things even more homogenous than they already are, but seriously...once you hear a number of people ramble about inane matters and things that could only be considered 'tangentially' related to the gospel for extremely liberal definitions of 'tangent', you'll start to see why the Church could really use more 'Church etiquette' talks... I wrote a few months ago about my gaining a testimony of the 'reality' of current sacrament talks and testimonies, even the bad ones, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't 'reign people in' a little by offering guidelines and suggestions. In fact, if and when I become a bishop (don't hold your breath...) the first talk I'm going to give is on sacrament meeting and testimony etiquette...

5. With the passing of Elder Maxwell, that probably leaves Elder Russell M. Nelson as my 'favorite' apostle. (Um...not that we're supposed to have favorites or anything...) Elder Nelson just seems to be the 'happiest' of the apostles--while many give talks exclusively with somber tones and serious expressions, Elder Nelson just seems to be genuinely happy to be alive and living the gospel. (Pres. Monson seems like a happy guy too...)

6. And yes, ten hours (eight for the sisters) is still a little on the long side, but again the problem is: everyone will get their spiritual guidance from a different part of conference so where would you make the cuts even if you wanted to?

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Elder Ering will forever remain my favourite living apostle. LeGrand Richards is my favourite dead one.

Posted by: Kim Siever | Oct 5, 2004 1:33:24 PM

"where would you make the cuts even if you wanted to"

At least they are two days now instead of three.

Personally, I think they should move the priesthood session to another day of the year and cut it down to an hour like the young women and Relief Society get.

Posted by: Kim Siever | Oct 5, 2004 1:35:03 PM

RE: Elder Ballard's talk on testimony bearing.

I agree with your commentary. And would only add that I actually think that if church members take this council to heart that it won't necessarily make things more 'homogenous' -- form can often liberate. My hope would be that we would find ways to share our testimony that stick to the things we should be testifying about but do so in variable, unique, intersting ways.

I think it can be done. I mean even bad sonnets are more interesting than most free-form poetry.

Posted by: William Morris | Oct 5, 2004 1:35:03 PM

Nice post. You might want to change "reign" to "rein" ... just a random thought. :)

Posted by: danithew | Oct 5, 2004 4:05:09 PM

When upon hearing the entire talk by Elder Ballard on proper testimonies, everyone in the room I was sitting in let out a unanomous "Wahoo!" Thank-a-monies, travel logs, and (the most annoying) Sermons have a tendancy to make one strain to feel the Spirit. A few months back one particular meeting was filled with members of one family whose only purpose was to preach to their visiting non member relatives. It was obvious and ridiculous and if I were one of the relatives intended to be taught - well, it would have driven me as far from the Gospel as possible.
Hooray for the testimony talk!!!

Posted by: yellow duck | Oct 5, 2004 5:34:01 PM

I, too, appreciated Elder Ballard's talk. Two thoughts, however, coming from the pessimist in me:

First, the greatest offenders won't recognize themselves as such.

Second, I was hoping his list of no-nos would include the "mannequin testimonies." I really hate when parents bring their kids up to the podium and whisper the *child's* testimony to them while the child echoes the responses into the microphone.

Would it be out of line for me to stand up in the middle of one of those in the future and scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"? Well, I guess that'd be a little too traumatic to the child, eh?

Posted by: Joe | Oct 5, 2004 7:54:25 PM

Joe,
Some where and at some time we HAVE been given that admonition, we just tend to forget it. Interstingly enough...pg.239 in the Primary Handbook quotes:

"Testimony meetings are not held in Primary. However, children who give talks may bear testimony as they desire. Primary leaders and teachers should provide opportunities for children to LEARN WHAT A TESTIMONY IS and WHY PEOPLE BEAR THEIR TESTIMONIES. Leaders and teachers should testify AS THEY TEACH and SING. Children should be encouraged to express their UNDERSTANDING OF and FEELINGS about THE MEMBERS OF THE GODHEAD, PROPHETS OF GOD, AND PRINCIPLES OF THE GOSPEL. THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY DO THIS, THEY ARE BEARING A TESTIMONY. (emphasis added)

hmm, that sounds pretty much the same as Ballard's talk eh? And if it's in the handbook, SOMEBODY said something over the pulpit to the general populus of the church.

Posted by: yellow duck | Oct 6, 2004 12:10:48 PM

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