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The LDS Guide to Dating & Marriage, Part 14: The Issue of Statistics...or why you shouldn't fear divorce

[Previous posts in the series:  Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7 | Part 8 | Part 9 | Part 10 | Part 11 | Part 12 | Part 13]

"Instead of studying for finals, what about just going to the Bahamas and catching some rays? Maybe you'll flunk, but you might have flunked anyway...that's my point."  -- Deep Thoughts (Jack Handey)

As discussed in the previous section, divorce is a reality and always will be.

Still, the statistics about divorces--even among Church members--can be pretty frightening. I'll bet just about everyone can name at least five couples they know personally who are divorced without breaking a sweat, and I'll bet virtually all Church members can name at least one temple-sealed couple who is now divorced.

Like all statistics, though, there's a right way and a wrong way to interpret them...

In college I had a female friend who had been dating her boyfriend steadily for a while. They were both nice, faithful people, got along well together, and were both mature enough that they'd probably do well if they got married. The problem was her boyfriend just couldn't make the commitment. After his parents got divorced, he said, and after seeing couple after couple among others he had met fall apart, he feels afraid of getting divorced himself...and thus afraid of getting married in the first place, even to his girlfriend whom he adores. Why go to the trouble of getting married if you're just going to get divorced later?

Looking at the raw numbers (divorce rate around 50% for virtually all couples) you could see the reason behind my friend’s (and others’) anxiety about getting married. After all, 50% is like flipping a coin: heads, your marriage makes it, tails it doesn't.

The problem is: it isn't like flipping a coin at all.

While the 50% figure is probably accurate, just quoting the 50% figure as it relates to you confuses cause and effect--it assumes a certain randomness to divorces when, in fact, divorces don't happen randomly at all. In other words, just because 50% of marriages happen to end in divorce, doesn't mean my marriage or your marriage has a 50% chance of ending in divorce--and therein lies the problem with statistics.

A professor in a college class may tell you the first day that historically only 15% of the students who take the class get A's. This, however, doesn't mean your chance of getting an A is only 15% (unless the professor is using a very strict bell curve for grading..or simply pulls final grades out of a hat at the end of the year...).  The means of determining your grade is not random--it depends on your individual effort in completing the homework, class projects, and tests through the course of the year. It may turn out that only 15% of the students end up making the effort to get an A, but that does not have a causal relationship with any one individual student in the class--that student either gets an A or doesn't according to his/her own effort and ability, not according to a random distribution.

So it is with marriages--they don't end because of some random flip of a coin...they end because of the actions of one or both of the partners. Therefore, the divorce rate is misleading because the figure is merely the numerical result of all collective marriage partners' individual decisions...not a cause of them. The only effect the marriage rate being high or low has on your marriage is affecting the number of other couples you know who have been divorced. (And this might not be an insignificant factor--it's quite possible the more couples you know who have gotten divorced themselves, the more likely you are to consider it yourself, since it seems to be the normal course of things. Of course, messy divorces could also work the other way--encouraging you to try harder so you don't have to go through what Brother Jones down the street did...)

The 50% divorce rate (give or take a percent) is probably accurate for marriages in general, and non-temple marriages involving at least one Church member. The actual temple marriage divorce rate is unknown (lower, I think…). Someone at Church HQ might have the stats, but in a sense they don't matter. Since divorces are not random, it really doesn't matter to me if the divorce rate happens to be 5%, 30% or 70%--the chances of my marriage lasting remain exactly the same.

Marriage is inherently an anxiety-inducing experience—and not just from fear of divorce either. You have someone new to care—and worry—about (even more when you have kids), plus you have a sense of vulnerability from knowing someone is going to get to know you—the good and the bad—better than anyone else alive, even your parents.  Still, to be afraid of trying because there's a chance of failure is just the kind of fear that we're here to overcome in this mortal life (see the "Deep Thought" above...).  Part of the marriage journey is being brave enough to make the jump in the first place and being willing to risk much for the sake of greater rewards...

Next: A wrap-up...for now.

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what "happens" when a temple sealed marriage ends in divorce?

Posted by: marcus | Feb 8, 2005 7:05:54 AM

Well, what 'happens' is just a "temple divorce"--there's some Church-specific paperwork to have the sealing ordinances annulled on the records of the Church. There will be eccesiastical (sp?) interviews to determine if serious sin from one or both partners was a factor in the divorce and then steps will be taken in that area, but otherwise both partners (I believe) can continue to hold temple recommends and get sealed to someone else in the temple in the future.

I have very little direct experience matter, though--so some of this might just be off the mark a little bit. Perhaps someone else more familiar with the details could chime in...?

Posted by: The Baron | Feb 8, 2005 7:42:58 AM

Unfortunately, I do have experience with this. In my case, my ex-husband was excommunicated before he filed for divorce. When I decided to have the sealing cancelled (there really are no "temple divorces"... it's called a cancellation of sealing) I was required to write a letter to the First Presidency detailing why I wanted my sealing cancelled.

There was a form that my bishop had to fill out as well, which also had a section for the Stake President to fill out. The form is closely held... a bishop has to request it directly from church headquarters each time he needs one. Since there had been a disciplinary council for my ex's excommuncation, there was no need for further interviews.

I know that my ex was invited to write a letter as well to tell "his side" of the story. My bishop (or maybe the SP) sent him a letter telling him that I had requested cancellation of sealing, and giving him a time limit to respond. I do not know whether he responded or not. After a while, I truly don't remember how long it took... that part of my life is rather fuzzy now, I received a letter from the First Presidency letting me know that the sealing had been cancelled and that I was free to be sealed again.

Posted by: Fiona | Feb 8, 2005 6:45:45 PM

I am currently in route to marry a woman that is working on getting her temple sealing cancelled from a previous marriage where no children resulted. Does anyone know what I will have to go through on my end for this temple divorce? What is asked of me?

Posted by: shane | Jan 22, 2006 10:08:40 PM

I don't think *you* will need to do anything personally--(unless it's perhaps to testify whether or not you played any part in the breakup of her earlier marriage). As far as I know (and as noted, I'm not an expert) only the divorced couple themselves need to share their side of the story with the proper authorities.

Not having children will probably make things easier for you two in your new relationship, but I don't think having children makes a difference in the cancellation of sealing process.

I know both sides are asked to share their sides of the story as to why they want a divorce, but I don't know if that's just for information purposes, or if there are criteria in which a cancellation of sealing will not be granted depending on what either party says. No personal experience myself, thank goodness...

Posted by: The Baron | Jan 23, 2006 7:12:41 AM

Attending BYU, I've heard a lot of differences of opinion in what percentage of LDS temple marriages succeed or fail. Although I know this is not relavent to the health of marriage, I was wondering if you had any good resources for reliable statistical information about LDS marriages, especially temple marriages?

Posted by: elph | Feb 3, 2006 3:57:38 PM

I've 'heard' from sources I consider educated and reliable that it is between 6-10%--which (if true) is pretty good (all things considered). Of course, 'succeed' does not mean just 'didn't ever get divorced' from an eternal perspective, so there's no way of knowing for sure how many temple marriages are 'successful'...

Posted by: The Baron | Feb 3, 2006 9:36:20 PM

Me and my husband were sealed in the Temple, we have four children, he has problems with infidelity he has been having girfriends over the phone and probably through emails and I have finally had it, no church authority knows. I don't know what to do, I do know that I don't want to be married to him anymore. I feel for our children.

Posted by: Marcie | Feb 25, 2006 2:15:25 AM

Marcie,

Has your husband had a 'real' affair with another woman? Or is this all fictional/fantasy online/over the phone things?

Also, are you doing all you can to save the marriage? satisfy him? Have you talked to him to see what he needs? why he is feeling insecure?

I'd suggest you figure this out before taking the 'easy way out.' It seems to me your finding/making excuses to leave the marriage.

Posted by: Joseph | Jan 9, 2007 9:36:39 PM

To who ever gave the Baron the advice a year ago (Marcie?) was correct in saying to do what she could to save the marriage - but please, please, Marcie - do not take on the bit about are you satisfying him. His sins are grievous and I believe from the years of watching all kinds of tragety that this kind is indeed the most painful (even the death of a loved one gives promise/hope of a future). This kind of sin stems from his problems. Be 'good' and employ charity - but this is a problem that belongs to him and it is his responsibility to change - you have nothing to do with that. Be who you want to be, as referenced above, but do it because it is who you want to be and what your Savior wants you to be, because it will bless you like nothing else - but your actions, as wonderful as they might be, will not guarentee his change of heart. That rests soley on him. Hope your year has seen him adapt the life changes and exploration as to why he would 'go there'. And a note to Marcie - a 'real affair'? My husband told me that his friendship with a co-worker was absolutely fine because, "although I have spent a lot of time with her breast, kissing and fondling, there was no v agin al penetration, so it's fine." Guess what...knowing the look on his face as he was engaged in this activity is enough to have caused the deepest of wounds - if that kind of penetration happened it wouldn't be any worse. I believe your intentions are good; but when sacred lines are crossed, it is a real affair.

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